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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Neuropathways, Habits, and Anxiety (Episode 51)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9665 Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

What about all this "neuropathways" talk? What does it mean in anxiety recovery?


Funny that you asked! This week on Disordered Josh and Drew are talking about neuropathways, anxious habits, and how the concept of "building new neuropathways" applies in the context of anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery. Let's start by acknowledging that even counterproductive anxious habits are built atop pathways in the brain designed to make things easier for us. We can learn good habits and develop responses and behaviors that almost feel automatic because that's metabolically efficient and frees our thinking brains up to concentrate on more important things. But sometimes, this amazing mechanism is accidentally used to create anxious or avoidant responses and habits based on a misfiring of our threat detection systems. Are there neuropathways beneath habits designed to avoid or escape anxiety triggers? Yes, there are.


But the good news is that we can play an active role in building new neuropathways. New behavioral choices and new experiences can re-wire our brains, even in the case where we might be terrified of our own bodies and minds. The guys use a bunch of analogies (some clever, some not so clever) to illustrate how making new choices in responding to anxious thoughts and anxious sensations triggers the process of creating new neuropathways. The conversation also touches on the need for commitment and repetition in building these new pathways that support new behaviors, new habits, and a new relationship with anxiety and fear.


Tune in for this, the usual "did it anyways", questions from the community, and maybe even a surprise for Josh and his now trademark screaming American eagle sound effect. ;-)


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Disclaimer: Disordered is not therapy or a replacement for therapy. Listening to Disordered does not create a therapeutic relationship between you and the hosts of the podcast. Information here is provided for psychoeducational purposes. As always, when you have questions about your well-being, please consult your mental health and/or medical care providers. If you are having a mental health crisis, always reach out immediately for in-person help.

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0:00.0

That there's a spectrum of habits.

0:03.0

Sometimes we have mostly good habits.

0:06.0

Sometimes we have neutral habits.

0:07.0

And then sometimes we can have unhelpful habits which anxiety disorders always, always fall under.

0:14.0

Same thing starts to feel true for people who are struggling with anxiety disorders.

0:18.0

The thoughts are automatic. The fear is automatic.

0:20.0

In the case of things that are perceived as a threat, those pathways probably get developed much

0:26.4

quicker. That's why we can learn to be afraid of, for instance, the sensations of panic after three panic

0:32.2

attacks, but it takes so damn long to get out of that. It's way more powerful when you're

0:37.4

doing the exposures than doing what non-anxious

0:39.3

you would do because you are creating that new neuro pathway.

0:43.4

You do it once you've started.

0:45.0

Do it twice.

0:45.6

You started a bit more.

0:47.0

Do it a hundred times.

0:48.0

Well, then you're right on it.

0:52.3

Welcome to Disordered.

0:53.7

This is episode 51. Today we're talking about anxious habits and neuropathways,

0:59.2

which is something that I know a lot of people want to talk about and know about. And today we're going to do that.

1:03.8

I am Drew Insalada. I am a therapist in training specializing in anxiety and anxiety disorders in the state of New York in the USA.

1:10.4

I am an author on this topic,

1:11.9

a podcaster, and I guess an educator and a former sufferer for many years of my life.

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