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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Neurofluency – with Dr. Lou Cozolino, Applied Neuroscience Made Understandable (89)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This episode breaks down neurofluency – the basics of neuroscience as it relates to being human in a relational world. This skill will help you with your boss, your teacher, your student, your child, you client or your spouse. Renowned author and therapist Lou Cozolino returns to Therapist Uncensored with co-host Sue Marriott for a breakdown of a concept he calls neurofluency. They describe what the key ingredients are for growth and why integration of different treatment forms can be crucial to healing. This one is for true neuronerds, therapists and advanced “normals” – technical but also truly applied theory! In this episode, TU89, we discuss: The concept of neurofluency Cortical integration – The importance of having a safe relationship and a capacity to regulate . You need to feel safe in order to have affect regulation, which you need to not have your cortical systems inhibited, and then you can add new information. Or when safe you can learn, when threatened you shut down any new updates to your old model, new learning, adaptation. Cozolino offers his thoughts on EMDR treatment and the orienting response. This is different and interesting – check it out! News: We have three executive systems, not just cortical, like previously imagined. Now it’s recognized that we have the amygdal response system (most primitive, fight-or-flight), frontal parietal networks in the brain (organizes our experiences of space-time and how to navigate), and the default mode network (self awareness, empathy). Learn the one most associated w/ the attachment system Historical background on Freud, who may have inhibited his own interest in the brain (despite being a neuroscientist) until a publication came out after his death. Therapist Uncensored has a page that says, “Neuroplasticity, Get Some.” We discuss what “neuroplasticity” is and what are the conditions that promote it?’ The psychology of distrusting leaders. In relation to face to face therapy, touch therapy, somatic therapy, Cozolino believes that the main key is safety, in whatever capacity it comes. Learning how to think through the basic principles of plasticity to achieve change is the goal, and there’s no one right way to do that. Emotion has to be part of new learning. Main points:There are no set answers and don’t believe anyone who is telling you they have them. Don’t trust narcissistic leaders that insist on following their brand, or say their view is the right and only way to do treatment. That is not science, it is not integrated in history and the balance of science and practice, and we should be skeptical especially of those profiting from alleged “new ideas” in therapy. We should also be wary of those that follow such gurus. The brain is a social organism so you have to have a broad view or conceptualization. You have to get in touch with your own flexibility and tolerate the anxiety of your own ignorance. (We LOVE that!!!) Previous and early Therapist Uncensored Episode #36, this with Patty Olwell and Lou Cozolino – Lou Cozolino’s Biography: Louis Cozolino, PhD, is a professor of psychology at Pepperdine University and a private practitioner. He is the author of The Healthy Aging Brain: Sustaining Attachment, Attaining Wisdom (2008), The Neuroscience of Human Relationships: Attachment and the Developing Social Brain (2014), The Neuroscience of Psychotherapy: Healing the Social Brain (2010), and Why Therapy Works: Using Our Minds to Change Our Brains (2015), Timeless: Nature’s Formula for Health and Longevity (2018). He has several books and articles in press at this publication. His new Dr. Cozolino has diverse clinical and research interests and hold degrees in philosophy, theology, and clinical psychology. His current interests are in the areas of the synthesis of neuroscience with psychotherapy, education, management, and leadership. In addition to multiple books, See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The parent early on is kind of a prosthetic orbital medial prefrontal cortex and the way in which the child has to adapt to the parent in a sense becomes kind of the architecture of this

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hierarchical system.

0:17.0

Hey everybody.

0:21.4

Hey everybody.

0:22.4

Welcome to Therapists Unsensored.

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This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal science into practical and understandable tidbits.

0:29.0

And as you listen, I can just imagine little light bulbs of insight appearing above your

0:35.1

head. Absolutely. You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn

0:39.5

about yourself is you get more accurate and in-depth view of your mind and your heart and as you figure out those close to you.

0:52.6

Therapist Unsensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy, relational neuroscience, modern attachment,

0:54.8

and anything else they think will be helpful in healing humans.

0:57.7

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly, and Sue Marriott. Hey everybody, welcome back.

1:10.1

We are very pleased to bring you a guest that we've actually had on before but we loved him so much and he has done some really cool new stuff that we are bringing him back on.

1:19.6

Our guest today is Dr. Lou Kozolino and if you bring in the two concepts of

1:25.4

psychotherapy as a process of learning and changing and growing with the

1:30.8

client or we might say on this podcast it's not just

1:33.6

psychotherapy but close interpersonal relationships do the same thing we are

1:38.2

learning how to update our models of relationship and change and grow.

1:43.0

That in combination with neuroscience.

1:45.3

So neuroscience being the study of the mind

1:47.9

and how we learn and how our brain changes.

1:50.4

And basically, Dr. Koselyno is very interested in bringing those two aspects together.

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