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Channels with Peter Kafka

Netflix Walks, Paramount Wins, and the Ellisons Take Hollywood

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Netflix shocked the world last year by winning a deal to buy Warner Bros. Discovery. This week it shocked us by walking away.In this emergency bonus episode, CNBC’s Alex Sherman walks us through the whiplash: Why Netflix chose not to counter Paramount, what the market blowback signaled, and how much of this was about price versus the very real prospect of a long, ugly regulatory and political slog.Then we spin it forward: what a Paramount/WBD mash-up means in practice (translation: overlap, “synergies,” and a lot of job anxiety)? What happens to crown-jewel assets like HBO and CNN? And why this isn’t just another media merger, but a power shift. We don’t really know what David and Larry Ellison have planned for their newly acquired media empire — but we do know that they are now very big players. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:07.7

This is channels of Peter Kafka.

0:09.2

That's me.

0:09.7

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider.

0:13.0

And this is a bonus emergency podcast for very obvious reasons.

0:18.7

On Wednesday, everyone thought Netflix was going to buy or had a reasonable expectation that

0:24.6

Netflix might buy Warner Brothers Discovery.

0:27.2

On Thursday, we learned that they're not going to buy it, which means Paramount's going

0:30.1

to buy it.

0:30.5

Here to explain all of this is CNBC's Alex Sherman.

0:33.9

Welcome back, Alex.

0:34.8

Thanks, Peter.

0:35.3

You pretty much just explained it there.

0:37.7

Yeah, podcast is over. That's right. Thanks for doing it. When did, when did your perception go from?

0:45.0

Paramounts made it made a bid. Now Netflix is going to counter. That's what we all sort of thought was going to happen this week to.

0:51.5

Netflix is going to walk. Did you expect this?

0:56.5

Did you have an inkling, I guess, is a more polite way of asking?

0:59.5

I did not expect it to happen yesterday at all.

1:02.9

I actually got a call about 25 minutes before the announcement.

1:06.7

Well, I didn't get a call.

1:08.0

I was reaching out to sources, and I got one to call me back. And that was a plugged in person who told me it's over. Netflix is walking. And so you learned before the news was announced. I learned about 25 minutes before the news. Then I started frantically calling for a second source. Didn't quite get there in time for the announcement. I think, you know, just tweet it out?

1:49.0

Netflix, I should have just tweeted it out, but that's not the way we do things at CNBC. So, you know, I think I think Netflix at that point knew that I was on to the story and they were, I think they were already going to publish their thing anyways. But look, the whole thing caught me off guard, I will say. I don't think anybody was expecting this to happen, you know, the same day that Warner Brothers Discovery's board decided that the Paramount offer was superior.

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