Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan on The Influence Continuum.

And I'm really very excited to have Sarma Mel Gaelis with me.

Sarma was the subject, I was going to say victim, but subject of the recent Netflix docu-series,

Bad Vegan.

And honestly, she's a pretty famous, iconic person for everyone that I know in Manhattan

who used to go to her restaurant, including, you know, major celebrities and

politicians. The restaurant was called Pure Food and Wine. It was a restaurant. And you also

were founder of the raw vegan brand, One Lucky Duck, which I think you had several locations for.

And so let me start by just saying,

in my professional opinion,

you were the victim of an artful and designing psychopathic person

who mind-controlled you, if I can cut to the chase.

But it became this big thing because of your celebrity

and how much money he was able to extract from you

and alienate you from your family.

And eventually you were sentenced and had to go to Rikers prison, which is absurd and an injustice.

And so I'm very excited to have you on because, honestly, over the decades of my career,

I've had numerous cases with men being controlled by psychopathic women and women being controlled by

psychopathic men on what we call a one-on-one cultic mind control relationship.

So having said that, Sarma, thank you for agreeing to do this with me.

And I'll add one more personal note that you went to Newton North High School,

where my son attended high school.

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