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🗓️ 21 May 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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In 2017, Netflix stuns Hollywood by paying television producer Shonda Rhimes an unprecedented amount of money to develop shows exclusively for the streamer. The move announces Netflix as a true rival to the legacy studios and kicks off the streaming wars. But when the business takes a sudden turn after the pandemic, Netflix is forced to make some key pivots to remain at the head of the pack.
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0:12.8 | It's fall 2016. |
0:23.6 | Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos sits at a back table at Republic, a casual restaurant in the heart of Los Angeles. |
0:32.1 | Sarandos nods hello to producers, agents, and actors as they pass by. |
0:37.4 | Place is known as a hotspot for entertainment power brokers to make deals over avocado |
0:42.3 | toasts and oat milk lattes. |
0:45.6 | Sarandos spies a reporter from an industry trade magazine sitting in the corner and kicks |
0:50.5 | himself for not picking a more discreet place to go. |
0:53.8 | If this meeting does go the way Sarandos hopes it will, |
0:57.5 | he's going to poach one of the most successful television producers working today |
1:01.2 | from the network she's called home for over a decade. |
1:05.1 | But the producer still has over a year left on her current contract, |
1:09.1 | and if word of this meeting leaks, well, it could |
1:12.1 | scuttle the whole deal before Sarandos can even make an offer. |
1:17.1 | The door swings open, and a short, elegantly dressed woman walks in, her eyes flitting around |
1:22.2 | the room. |
1:24.0 | Sarando stands up and greets her. |
1:26.5 | Shonda rhymes. it's a pleasure. |
1:29.5 | The pleasure is mine. |
1:31.8 | Rhyme shakes Sarandos' hand and takes a seat. |
1:35.3 | Rhymes rocketed to fame after creating the medical drama Grey's Anatomy in 2005. |
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