Net zero nets ‘nul point’ after power outages in Europe
Planet Normal
Theodora Louloudis
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🗓️ 1 May 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
Following nationwide power outages in Spain and Portugal on Monday this week, co-pilots Pearson and Halligan don their spacesuits to take a deeper dive into net zero pledges and realities.
And as migrant numbers on channel crossings hit 10,000, Allison celebrates a push back on ‘liberal pieties’ and sees migration as the number one concern in the UK.
Taking a return trip on the rocket, historian and author Owen Matthews joins Liam to discuss the war in Ukraine, how much longer he thinks Putin will hold out and the thorny issue of Crimea.
Read more from Liam: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/liam-halligan/ |
Read Liam: ‘Reeves needs to ditch her net zero delusions for Britain’s sake’ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/27/rachel-reeves-needs-ditch-net-zero-delusions/ |
Read more from Allison: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/a/ak-ao/allison-pearson/ |
Read Allison: ‘To all those about to lose to Reform: it’s immigration, stupid’ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/29/reform-is-a-force-to-be-reckoned-with-its-immigration/ |
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| 0:00.0 | Five. |
| 0:03.4 | In the old Basil Rathbone films, Watson was a lot fatter than Holmes. |
| 0:07.2 | Four. |
| 0:08.8 | I've never known what sex you are. |
| 0:10.6 | It's just, you know, it's quite hard to tell. |
| 0:12.6 | Three. |
| 0:14.1 | And even Rachel from accounts now is starting to see the light on this issue. |
| 0:19.3 | Two. |
| 0:20.6 | I don't think Trump is a Russian agent. |
| 0:23.5 | I think that's completely childish and stupid. |
| 0:29.6 | We have left off. |
| 0:33.2 | Welcome once again to Planet Normal, the Telegraph podcast with Alison Pearson. |
| 0:39.1 | Hello. And me, Liam Halligan. It's local election day with 1,641 council seats across 24 English local authorities up for grabs. |
| 0:48.5 | Most of them were contested during local elections in 2021, and these are the first national elections |
| 0:54.1 | since last July's general election. |
| 0:57.2 | There are also six mayoral contests taking place, including the inaugural elections for mayors in |
| 1:01.9 | Greater Lincolnshire, and also Hull and East Yorkshire. Plus, we've got the Runcorn and |
| 1:07.0 | Heldsby by-election, so that constituency on the Banks of the Mersey and Cheshire will be |
| 1:12.0 | getting a new MP. We will discuss what happened in Spain and Portugal around midday local time |
| 1:18.3 | on Monday, the biggest power cut in recent European history, impacting some 60 million people. |
| 1:25.1 | With power supplies now mostly back to normal, attention's laser focused on what caused |
| 1:29.7 | the incident, with many blaming the intermittency of renewable energy, which of course accounts for a |
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