You know, What do you see is the biggest challenges in conservation?

The growing human population.

Because where we are, there's something else.

And do you have views about what should be done about that?

Contraget, yes.

Well, it could be on a spectrum from mass sterilisation to, you know,

greater availability of contraception. I don't know. I don't know what your views are as to what can be done about it. Well, I think, I think it might be described

as voluntary family limitation. I grew up in the 1960s watching those TV commercials with those

starving kids in Africa

who stared vacantly at the camera with sad eyes and distended bellies.

And in sixth grade, my Glee Club teacher, Mr. Collins,

had us change the words in this song we were singing.

Three billion people in the world.

Two.

Four billion people in the world.

And I was shocked.

You couldn't believe that the population was so big.

And it was even more shocked because no one else in the class

and did all disturb by this fact. A couple days later I told my friend Susie Haander that

because there seemed to be too many people in the world for it to handle

that I wasn't going to have any kids.

And she looked at me and she replied that she was going to have three.

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