I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

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From WBEZ Chicago, I'm Greta Johnson, and this is The Nerd at Book Club.

It's just like a regular book club, except we actually have no way of knowing if you read the book.

This month's pick is Andrea Gibson's new collection of poems. It's called You Better Be Lightning.

Just a note, before we get started, some of the poems that we discuss in this episode deal with things like suicide and sexual assault. You will get a heads up before we read those poems, but,

you know, you do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself today. Now, this is normally

where I would do a spoiler warning, but it's poetry. I will say we did an interview

with Andrea earlier this month. They are amazing. It's a lovely conversation. I do recommend

you take a listen to that. You can find it wherever you found this podcast. But no pressure.

Either way, we are glad to have you. Today, we're going to discuss the collection with two poets.

Here with me is Jennifer Huang. Their collection Return Flight will be out next month. Jennifer, welcome. Hello,

thank you for having me. We also have Christopher Soto. He has a collection coming out next year. It's

called Diaries of a Terrorist. Christopher. Hey. Hello, hello, hello. Good to be here. So I wanted to start with

what might seem like a silly question, but I was curious how you like to read poems. Like, is there a

certain place you want to sit? Is there, like, do you read them out loud? How do you most like to

consume a poem? What do you think,

Jennifer? I like to consume poems in my bed with coffee in the morning. And I do sometimes read them

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