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From WBEZ Chicago, I'm Greta Johnson, and this is the Nerdat Book Club. It's just like a regular book club, except sometimes the author stops by. It is somehow already December of the year 2022. And our book club selection this month is Ernan Diaz's trust. This is a book best enjoyed with as few preconceived notions as possible. So all I'm going to say is this. Trust is in many ways four separate versions of the same story.

It is a novel. There's an unfinished memoir. There's a story of a ghostwriter. And then a series of journal entries.

It's about a wealthy financial trader and his wife during the 1920s and into the Depression.

It is about wealth and truth and who gets to tell their stories.

Arnon is with us now.

Ernan, welcome to Nuredat.

Hi, Greta.

What a pleasure to be here.

Thank you for having me.

So I mentioned this is a book in a book in a book.

It's such a fun structure because there's a lot of

puzzling that the reader gets to do, which I found very satisfying. You're not handing anything to

anyone on a platter in this book. I'm curious how you came to the structure. That actually

happened a little later. Just to walk you through the whole thing, at first,

it was a pretty straightforward novel in my mind about wealth in America and the accumulation

of capital. But the more I read toward the story, the more I thought about it, the more

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