I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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From WBEZ Chicago, I'm Greta Johnson, and this is The Nerd at Book Club.

We are back after taking the summer off, and I am very excited to tell you that our September book club pick is Gabrielle Zevon's novel Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow.

It tracks the friendship of Sam and Sadie, who first meet each other as kids in Los Angeles

and end up starting a video game

company together. The book follows the ups and downs of their friendship and their company.

That is all I am going to say for now, since this is a spoiler-free episode.

Gabrielle is here with me now. Gabrielle, hello.

Thank you for having me, nerdette.

I know, right? Are you the official nerd-ed? I mean, yeah, I guess, hello. Thank you for having me, nerdette. I know, right? Are you the official,

are you the official nerdette? I mean, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I'll take it. Right. I mean, I don't have

like a tattoo or anything, but yeah. Or crown. No crown either. I mean, there is a tote bag that's kind of fun.

So people don't like reach you as like, uh, senior nerdettes or something like that. No, usually Greta's fine.

Okay, Greta. We'll go with that. Okay, cool. So this is one of those books that's like about

video games, but also not at all about video games, which I think is just fascinating for a number of

reasons. I have a lot of questions about it. But first, I assume you yourself are a gamer.

I am a gamer, but I think not in the way people think of gamers. You know, I think we have really

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