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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Nellie Bowles Knows Why So Many Progressives Lost Their Minds—She Almost Did, Too

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

Society & Culture, News

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Nellie Bowles wasn’t always the TGIF queen you know and love at The Free Press. In fact, Nellie was, for a very long time, deeply embedded in the progressive left.  Before Bari and Nellie met—and fell in love, blah blah blah—in 2019, Nellie was nothing short of a media darling. She had the right ideas, she wrote the right stories, and NYT readers ate it up.  But Nellie is a reporter. And being a reporter—a great one—forced her to confront the gap between what an increasingly zealous left claimed were its aims. . . and the actual realities of their policies.  People don’t usually change their minds. At least not on big-stakes political issues, and not when their jobs are at risk, or their social acceptance is on the line. And people certainly don’t change their minds publicly.  Nellie did. And she chronicles that change in her new book, Morning After the Revolution: Dispatches from the Wrong Side of History. The book is a collection of stories from her reporting during the years she started to question the narrative. These were stories people told her not to write. People said, Don’t go to Seattle’s autonomous zone; there’s nothing to see there. They said, Don’t report on the consequences of hormone therapy for kids; it’s not important.  But as Nellie writes, “I became a reporter because I didn't trust authority figures. . . . As a reporter, I spent over a decade working to follow that curiosity. It was hard to suddenly turn that off. It was hard to constantly censor what I was seeing, to close one eye and try very hard not to notice anything inconvenient, especially when there was so much to see.” That curiosity is what got Nellie kicked out of the club. But it gave her a place in a new club, the one that we at The Free Press think that the majority of Americans are actually in.  On today’s episode: What does it mean to walk away from a movement that was once central to your identity? How does it feel to be accused of being “red-pilled” by the people you once called friends? How did the left become so radical and dogmatic? Why do people join mobs? And how did Nellie come back from the brink? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been

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So for fact sake, search the economist.

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I'm Barry Weiss, and from the free press this is honestly.

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When I met my wife Nellie Bowles, she was not the T GIF Queen free press readers know and love today. And if you're not yet reading TGIF, pause

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this podcast, go to the F.com and sign up right now for the best Friday column that exists in the world.

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Okay, now that you're back.

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What many of you might be surprised to learn is that Nellie,

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you're very devoted, often unhinged, always funny,

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and also a little sarcastic news narrator, was for

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a very long time, and certainly when I met her, swimming along with the Progressive Left.

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Before I met Nellie in 2018

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in the New York Times cafeteria,

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she was nothing short of a media darling.

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She had all the right ideas.

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She wrote all the right stories.

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Times readers ate it up, and her career was soaring.

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But then she met me. Just kidding. Well, kind of, because that's part of the story for

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