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Neither Liberalism nor Reaction: Centering the 3-Way Fight

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Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy, News

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Alyson and Breht use Devin Zane Shaw's work (specifically his Philosophy of Antifascism) as a jumping off point for exploring the concept of the three way fight, and how principled Marxists and revolutionaries can avoid falling into reaction or tipping into liberalism by understanding and adhereing to it.

Check out the Rev Left interview with Devin about his book here: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/antifascism


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0:00.0

Hello everybody and welcome back to Red Menace.

0:18.8

On today's episode, we are covering, as we mentioned last month, the concept of the

0:23.4

three-way fight, and we're going to be relying fairly heavily, but certainly not

0:28.2

exclusively on Devon's Zane Shaw's work on the front, which actually we've done

0:34.0

an episode with Devon on RevLeft as well, which perhaps we can link to in the

0:37.9

show notes, covering some of the stuff we'll be covering today. But that is the

0:42.1

topic, the three-way fight, and we think it's particularly timely, and I think

0:46.3

we'll get into why it's timely throughout this conversation, but people that are

0:50.7

on the left and the Communist left certainly know that there are errors in both

0:55.0

directions, right? There have been socialists that have, especially through the

0:58.1

Trump and COVID years, kind of moved to side with the liberals in various ways

1:02.7

against the so-called fascist threat of Trump and the Trump administration, and

1:06.3

we've seen even more recently socialists kind of through confusion or

1:11.0

chauvinism or a mixture of both leaning towards the right on various issues and

1:16.0

trying to, I think, functionally, tail the backward, if you will. So I think

1:21.6

it's helpful to make an intervention here to clarify the three-way fight and

1:26.3

to clarify a principled communist position in regards to the triangulation

1:30.4

between liberalism and fascism. So that's what we're going to do today.

1:34.4

Allison, would you like to kind of bring us into the main discussion?

1:37.0

Yeah, I'll go ahead and kind of broadly set up what we're dealing with here. So

1:40.8

this term three-way fight, if you're not familiar with it, we're gonna look a

1:44.1

little bit into Devin's definition of it since it's very useful. But broadly,

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