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Hey everyone, it's Neilight from the Verge Cast.

On this week's interview, we've got the one and only Neil Young.

That's right, Neil Young, the rock star.

And on my last few, I think I pissed him off a little, but in like a good way,

then a good one.

Neil just wrote a book with longtime tech executive Phil Baker called to feel the music,

which was about the quest to build a pono music player and make high res audio happen.

We talked about his feelings on the tech industry, why music sounds worse now.

I pushed him a little bit on some of his ideas about why music sounds worse now,

that had what I would say the expected outcome.

But mostly, he told me that he really just wants people to listen to great sounding music,

which how can you fight that?

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