Neil Kinnock on the speech that changed the Labour Party
The News Agents
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4.1 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
As this year’s party conference season draws to a close, Lewis sits down with Neil Kinnock to reflect on his iconic 1985 Labour Conference speech. They discuss leadership, the power of political courage, and what the future holds for the Labour Party.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.3 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:13.2 | I'll tell you what happens with impossible promises. |
| 0:16.2 | You start with far-fetched resolutions. |
| 0:21.6 | They're then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code. |
| 0:25.6 | And you go through the years sticking to that, |
| 0:29.6 | outdated, misplaced, irrelevant to the real needs, |
| 0:35.6 | and you end in the grotesque chaos of a Labour Council, |
| 0:40.5 | a Labour Council hiring taxis to scuttle round a city, handing out redundancy notices to its own |
| 0:47.1 | organs. |
| 0:49.0 | That is the unmistakable voice and cadence of Neil Kinnock, and a bit of the unmistakable, unforgettable speech |
| 0:57.0 | he made 40 years ago this month at the Labour Party Conference in Bournemouth on the 1st October |
| 1:03.2 | 1985. He was taking on in the most visceral, explicit public terms, the militant tendency, a left-wing Trotskyist |
| 1:14.6 | organisation which had infiltrated parts of the Labour Party, including taking control of Liverpool |
| 1:21.3 | City Council. It was a glittering highlight of Kinnock's leadership, a turning point, if not for his quest to become |
| 1:29.1 | Prime Minister, then certainly in the slow grind of taking the party back to government. It has |
| 1:36.2 | entered political and speech-making law, beloved of the right of the Labour Party, reviled by the |
| 1:43.5 | left. It is perhaps the most famous |
| 1:46.2 | conference speech ever given. Up there alongside Margaret Thatcher's Lady is Not For Turning, given a few |
| 1:52.7 | years before, or her reaction to the Brighton bomb, only a year before. As the Great Britain-wide |
| 1:59.3 | party conferences draw to an end, we thought, |
| 2:01.8 | what better moment to bring the man himself now in his 83rd year into the newsagent's studio, |
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