Neil Kinnock: 92 or 97?
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
All week, people in politics have been asking whether the next general election is going to be a similar result to 1992 - when Labour were expected to win but lost, or like 1997 when Labour won in a landslide victory.
Who better to ask than former Labour leader Neil Kinnock?
In a wide-ranging chat, Neil talks about the challenge of facing Margaret Thatcher at PMQs, sharing funny tweets with Keir Starmer, how he feels about the trans-debate given his grandson has transitioned, and what Labour need to do to win the next election.
Plus columnist Iain Martin and former head of Channel 4 News Dorothy Byrne on the rumoured comebacks of Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, Iain's defence of Brexit and commemorating political moments with blue plaques.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, this is the web box podcast. I'm Matt Shirley, bringing you the best of my Times Radio |
| 0:04.2 | show. Don't forget you can listen live on Times Radio Monday to Thursday, 10 to 1. More people are |
| 0:09.3 | listening. That's some figures out this week. 12% more people tuning into Times Radio every week, |
| 0:14.3 | which is nice. So and if you are already one of them, tell your friends as well. If you're visiting |
| 0:18.6 | friends, reaching their radios to Times Radio and break their knob off. Right, coming up on today's |
| 0:23.2 | episode then, the big political question of the week. Is it 1992 where everyone thinks the |
| 0:28.8 | Labour are going to win and then the tour he's did? Or is it 1997 when Labour win by a landslide? |
| 0:34.2 | Who better to ask, frankly, than the man who was there in 1992? Neil Kinnick is coming up on |
| 0:38.6 | the podcast and actually this is an extended version of the interview because we couldn't |
| 0:42.2 | fit it all in on the radio. Really, really interesting talking about politics in the 70s and in the 90s |
| 0:48.4 | and now, but he also opens up about his trans grandson and his hope that everyone could just be a bit |
| 0:54.0 | polite to join the trans to play and really movingly talking about his wife Glenis as well and |
| 0:58.6 | looking after her while she lives without Simon. So really fascinating interview with Neil Kinnick |
| 1:03.2 | coming up. But first, let's pick through the news for today's economists. The columnists on Times |
| 1:10.2 | Radio. Yeah, and today's columnist panel joining me in the studio, Times College in March is here, |
| 1:16.1 | morning it, morning it, nice to see. And beaming in former head of Channel 4 News, Dorothy |
| 1:21.2 | Bernie Dorthy. Morning. Where are you joining us from this morning, Dorothy? |
| 1:25.2 | I'm joining from Murray Edwards College at Cambridge University. Of course. |
| 1:31.3 | In fact, the last time you won the show was when we did the show in Cambridge, I see. |
| 1:34.4 | So it's nice to have you back. Let's talk about what the sort of lots of threads of things |
| 1:40.0 | flying around. I suppose that the exam question is, what should a former prime minister do? |
| 1:44.4 | We've got Boris Johnson's being interviewed by Nadine Doris. We've got Liz Talk of a Liz Trust |
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