as an academic, I care that I learn something every day. If a day goes by and I don't learn something, that's a wasted day. And ideally, you should get your mind blown at least once a week. By just something, whoa, I never knew that. And so for me, that is how I establish and derive meaning in my life.

Hey, hey, and welcome.

This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday's special.

I'm excited to be joined today by Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

His brand new book is Letters from an Astrophysicist.

He, of course, also hosts Star Radio, which is a podcast, and his famous show Cosmos on National Geographic.

Neil, thanks so much for stopping by. Thanks for having me. So why don't we start with,

for folks who don't actually know your background before you became famous science person who talked science. Well, what exactly is your background? How did you get from where you were to being who you are?

I just liked learning about the universe ever since I was nine years old.

They first visit to my local planetarium, the Hayden Planetarium.

I grew up in New York City.

And I had the advantage of, well, the city offers the advantage that for many

of the cultural institutions once if you do sort of the exhibits and the

front-line things you can do a deep dive and at the American Museum of Natural

History which is the sort of the overarching institution that has the Hayden Planetarium.

There were courses I could take.

There were special sessions I could attend.

And so it wasn't just the space show and an exhibit.

I could continue to probe the structure and nature of the universe,

right from middle school on through high school,

and that served my interest really, really well.

I went to the Bronx High School of Science, which, if I may, counts eight Nobel laureates among its graduates,

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