Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Negligence, the Dylan Redwine story.

I'm Eric Carter-Londine, and this is True Consequences. When we last left off, I was speaking with Bob Mata, who is a former defense attorney turned podcaster on the show Defense Diaries.

Again, if you haven't checked that show out, please go check it out.

We're going to pick up where Bob and I left off last week, talking about the trial.

Yeah. So we left off. We were talking about the trial. We were starting to get into that. And I think that not being a defense attorney, not knowing anything about that world, other than being a family member of a victim, it was very clear. And I almost had a thought early on in the trial.

It almost felt like the defense team was being purposely out of it, I guess.

I don't know, man.

I just don't think I just don't think I was prepared.

You know, it's like, like I've seen lawyers that kind of wing it in a closing.

And I got that distinct feeling. Because like when a guy just kind of repeats the same shit about 50 times during the closing you know that number one that

they don't have a strong case because they're trying to you know kind of just beat a dead horse

with respect to kind of the same point over and over and over and And I really got that feeling like the first, like I said,

the first hour of that like before he kind of like sort of delving into the evidence,

you know, I really just kind of got the feeling like,

wow, this guy's really pushing the reasonable doubt angle like hard, you know,

which, you know, I always consider that to be like kind of the the catch-all

you know like if you don't have the evidence on your side you're basically arguing reasonable

doubt that they just didn't they weren't able to prove their case so as opposed to the evidence

not really reflecting that the guy did it you know what I mean so that was that was definitely

the feeling I got from them.

It was certainly not a sterling performance by the defense. And I didn't particularly think that

the prosecution was great either. I was relieved that, you know, it went the way that it did because

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