Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Delighted, welcome back to the show, my friend, president, and CEO of the Center for American Progress.

I'm not going to do the whole bio. She's worked for every establishment Democrat out there, basically. I'm getting off. Okay, well, what kind of thing is that? It's near a tandem. Christmas spirit out the window. You want the full bio? Do you want to go through your city? No, no. I was like, do we have to say establishment Democrat? I don't just say winning or some other word? Yeah, I never had any wins. So multiple runs in the White House. I had some losses. You did. We're not getting to talk about those. But, you know, multiple stints in the White House, unlike me. It's Nira. I've got so much to talk to you about. I think we're going to start just by making fun of the Trump rally yesterday, just kind of warm everybody's cockles a little bit. He went out to speak at a casino and the Poconos. Why not? Yeah. About the economy. And he, as Trump does, he kind of reads from the show notes live, where he's like, my team is telling me, I got to talk about affordability, even though it's a hoax. And he talked about how Teros was his favorite word. We don't play it his voice here. So I'm going to just read this part to you. He tells people if they're concerned about affordability, they can give up certain products. You can give up pencils. Kids only need one or two.

They also don't need 37 dolls for your daughter. Two or three is nice, but you don't need 37 dolls.

Nothing welcomes the Christmas spirit than more than telling little girls across the country that four dolls is too much.

Tighten the belt.

I guess I'd ask you.

I mean, I just think this is like a fascinating journey for the Republican Party to go from, you know, the market works, et cetera, to really the big problem in America as people

want, little kids want too many dolls, you know, asking for five pencils is too much.

I mean, it's really, it's like a fascinating journey.

I mean, I sometimes wonder whether with the tariff policy and alienating our allies,

we've been thinking about, you know, kind of the 1930s. But this is really more reminiscent of like an Oliver Twist, 1880s kind of thing.

Yeah, William Jennings, Brian.

So I mean, look, I hope Donald Trump takes this message, this really crucial economic

message to every corner of the country.

And I thought it was amazing that, like, basically, as he was

talking about his economic policy in a casino, because that's not too on the nose,

basically, Democrats were winning this, you know, seat in Miami, the mayor's race, which

they haven't won in 30 years. Now, it's a nonpartisan race,

but in Georgia, they flipped a seat that was, you know, 12 points for Republicans or Republican

district leading Donald Trump won it by double digits. So, you know, my, my basic take here is

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