Neera Tanden: Aiding and Abetting Trump

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Mike Johnson is racing to shut the business of the House down to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein files. Trump's own criminal lawyer, who's moonlighting as deputy attorney general, will be minding the matter of Ghislaine Maxwell. And Texas is looking to squeeze out some more House seats to try to protect Trump from having to be held accountable on Epstein. Has any other politician ever acted so guilty? But in this moment, the Dems are finally bringing a gun to a gunfight. And for the midterms, they need to commit to Benghazi-style hearings on the contents of the files—and the Republican cover-up. Plus, securing the border without a terror campaign, and recruiting candidates to fill out a bigger Democratic tent.

Neera Tanden, at the Center for American Progress, joins Tim Miller.
show notes

CAP's new immigration policy platform, co-authored by Neera

Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for YOU, for LESS, and save more than fifty percent at selectquote.com/bulwark

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back, one of my favorite posters, President and CEO of Center for American Progress,
0:21.9	formerly Domestic Policy Council Director under Joe Biden. It's Nira Tandon. What's going on,
0:27.7	Nira? You know, I feel like I'm experiencing the greatest amount of joy I've had in the first six
0:34.6	months. So I'm just happy to experience that joy. Is it the Molly or what is it? What's working for you? I feel like going two weeks on Epstein
0:43.8	has just, you know, put a spring in my step. Yeah, some endorphins. Okay, but you're not
0:49.2	concerned at all about the imminent arrest of Barack Obama? You did work for him. Yeah, I'm not really worried about the imminent arrest. I mean, I'm not really worried about the imminent arrest of Barack Obama? Yeah, I'm not really worried about the imminent arrest.
0:58.1	I mean, I do think it's unfortunately we live in a kind of crazy la-la land that we could actually talk about something so insane.
1:07.1	But my general take is that I have never seen a politician or political leader in my lifetime act as guilty as Donald Trump has acted in the last two weeks.
1:21.0	So, I mean, I feel like it's like he's indicting himself.
1:26.2	So you're saying you don't think Barack Obama's like quaking in his boots right now, you know,
1:29.8	sitting around his home, wherever he is?
1:32.6	I don't think so. I don't think he's quaking in his boots in particular because the Donald
1:37.0	Trump's secretary of state, Mark Rubio, is the one who said who backed up everything
1:43.8	Barack Obama said about Russian interference with the elections.
1:48.5	And when he talked about Russian interference in elections, he was talking about what has been well established that they, you know, use disinformation.
1:57.8	And just want to say, one of the victims of that disinformation right here
2:02.0	during the 2016 election. So I was following the news pretty, like, closely on this one.
2:07.8	I'm sorry, Neara. I think you're part of the hoax there. I think that when you put,
2:11.7	you put out your own emails and you dealt with all of the slander and all of the terrible news
2:17.2	coverage in the New York Times as all part of an elaborate hoax working in concert with Barack Obama to pretend like the Russians.
2:25.7	Yes, to pretend like the Russians were hurting Hillary Clinton to elect Donald Trump.
2:31.5	To elect Donald Trump.
	...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 9 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bulwark, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The Bulwark and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.