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Welcome back, everyone to the Grace Curley Show.

Someone who has been such a wonderful resource for us here at the Grace Curley Show is Ned Ryan.

I encourage you all to read his book American Leviathan actually ties into a lot of

the bureaucratic administrative state that Trump is currently trying and I think succeeding in

kind of unraveling. We're going to talk about that. But first up, Ned, last time we had you on the

program, or maybe you had just sent me a message

on Twitter, you were giving us your take on the Pete Heggzith confirmation.

You ended up being very on the money about that.

I know you were actually there in person for that confirmation hearing.

But as far as RFK Jr. goes, how do you think this is playing out?

And do you think he's going to end up getting the votes?

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