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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

That's Joe Biden in front of a Zatabunt in front of a bunch of firefighters.

Yeah, firefighters, you speak and run Joe run.

They sound pretty enthusiastic.

Among the many things we're going to talk about with our esteemed guest, Lonnie Chan is

the host of the podcast crossing lines with Lonnie Chan.

He's also David Diane Steffi Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Director of Domestic

Policy Studies and Lecturer in the Public Policy Program at Stanford University.

Good morning, Lonnie, our user.

Good morning, great to be with you.

The esteemed, that's quite an introduction, thank you.

Got to ask you, Lonnie, now you're brilliant and we know that.

And I don't have any doubts about you, but when you're at Harvard or bumping around Stanford,

you ever run into your students and think, how the heck did you get in here?

And now you know, now you know.

Yeah, wow, that was really a shocking story, not so much for the fact that there's some

kind of preference given maybe to people who have legacy, but the fact that now you've

got somebody personally profiting and then rigging the process for people who really

shouldn't have been able to get in.

I mean, that was really quite fascinating and shocking to me because the quality and

caliber of students that I run into is usually pretty high.

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