NBA season preview: The Knicks star who loves breast milk, the ex-Thunder star who ate 20 fish heads, and why the Kawhi Leonard scandal has league execs plotting
The Sports Gossip Show
The Athletic
4.8 • 734 Ratings
🗓️ 21 October 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Madeline and Charlotte are thrilled to welcome The Athletic’s Fred Katz to the show. Fred is a senior NBA writer who loves to gab, and the gals really were not ready for the amount of information he dropped on them in the first ten minutes.
They start out talking about the Knicks — namely, why Josh Hart is living the dream of every seven-year-old who wants to be an NBA player. Plus: the vibes on that team, why Mitchell Robinson is such a character, and if New York can win it all this year. The Oklahoma City Thunder are coming off a title year, and Fred tells the gals about the time that former Thunder star Steven Adams ate 20 fish heads.
Is LeBron going to retire? Probably not! Are we idiots? Yes, according to Lakers head coach JJ Redick. Did Mavericks GM Nico Harrison dodge a bullet by drafting Cooper Flagg after letting Luka Doncic go to LA? Does Cooper have a ton of pressure on him? Is Spurs star Victor Wembanyama single-handedly saving reading? And, finally, how is the league responding to the allegations against Clippers owner Steve Ballmer and star Kawhi Leonard?
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| 0:00.0 | Testing. Testing. Testing. One, two, three. You know, and you haven't washed your hair for a while and then you wash your hair. Yeah. And you're like, cleanest lady in town. |
| 0:10.5 | I feel incredible right now. You're feeling great. Feel like a superhero. Okay. |
| 0:26.2 | Hi, Charlotte. |
| 0:27.3 | Madeline, hello. |
| 0:27.9 | We're back. |
| 0:28.9 | Yes, we are. |
| 0:29.4 | Woo-hoo. |
| 0:32.0 | Do you like that? |
| 0:32.6 | Woo-hoo. |
| 0:34.7 | Hello there. |
| 0:36.4 | Cuckoo for Cocoa Pops. |
| 0:38.0 | We, |
| 0:41.2 | welcome to the show. |
| 0:44.2 | We have a really great interview for you today. |
| 0:48.3 | Fred Katz, senior writer for the athletic, |
| 0:48.7 | right. |
| 0:51.1 | NBA senior writer? |
| 0:51.9 | Yeah, whatever. |
| 0:53.5 | Senior NBA reporter. |
| 0:54.3 | Fred, he's great. He got there in the end. He's our buddy. He listens whatever. Yeah, you got there. NBA reporter. Fred, he's great. |
| 0:56.1 | He's our buddy. |
| 1:01.7 | He listens to the show, which was so I'm always very moved when someone come. |
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