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The Bill Simmons Podcast

NBA Panic Rankings, NFL Draft Guesses, and a Michael Jackson Movie Review | With Todd McShay, Steve Muench, and Van Lathan

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.430.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Summary

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons catches up on Tuesday's NBA playoff matchups before taking a look at the panic teams (3:00). Then, Todd McShay and Steve Muench join Bill to preview the NFL draft (25:05). Finally, Van Lathan joins to give his thoughts on the new Michael Jackson biopic, ‘Michael’ (01:36:27). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Todd McShay, Steve Muench, and Van Lathan Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Shop your favorite local grocers on Uber Eats! https://www.ubereats.com/brand/kroger The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Bill Simmons podcast brought to you by Fandle.

0:08.9

We're also brought to by the Ringer Podcast Network.

0:11.3

I put up a new rewatchables on Monday.

0:13.8

We did Kindergarten Cop.

0:14.8

It is available on Netflix as well.

0:17.5

Next week, Ghostbusters, which you can also watch on Netflix. That's coming with me

0:22.0

and Van Lathena and Chris Ryan. We have some ringer stuff for you. Sean Fantasy, you might

0:26.9

have heard from him, hosted the big picture. I've worked with them since 2012. He put up a new

0:33.1

newsletter today that you can subscribe to about movies. Did it with The Ringer and Substack and Spotify. It's called Projections. He'll be writing about movies at least once a week. If you like Sean, I'm pretty confident you're going to like the newsletter. He's going to be on here Thursday to discuss it. Jordan Khan, who's been with us since Grantland, came to us along when we started the Ringer, one of the best long farm

0:55.9

writers in the country. He has a new book that came out today called American Men. It's excellent.

1:00.3

If you like reading books, I would recommend it. And then Legata, the third episode of that

1:06.1

podcast, which I told you, if you like Scarface and Miami Vice and 80s cocaine, all that stuff,

1:11.3

this is the podcast for you.

1:13.2

Legata third episode is up now.

1:16.1

On this podcast, I'm going to be reacting to all the basketball tonight, plus the

1:20.9

basketball yesterday at the very top of this.

1:24.2

And then I have Todd McShay and Steve Mensch.

1:27.4

We taped earlier today, a whole bunch of

1:29.6

NFL draft stuff, all of our thoughts. I threw some crazy stuff at them. Are there going to

1:35.6

be any crazy wrinkles? What's going to happen in this draft? Covered it all. And then last but not

1:40.5

least, Van Lathen came on because he saw the Michael Jackson movie and he thought

1:45.7

it was abominable. And we talked about the movie and the state of biopics and documentaries

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