On this week's Bet the Process podcast, we have professional MBA better Kirk Evans on, who is also on

the Circleback podcast, which is part of the Hammer Network. He does that with our friend Rob Pizzola.

And then he also has a newsletter. If any of you guys find his content interesting, which it is very interesting,

despite my job hosting, he has a newsletter. And you can just check it out. It's called Kirk's Hammer.

You can find the link in his Twitter bio. And his Twitter handle is Kirk Evans Zero. So that's

Kirk, K-A-R-K-Evons-Z vans zero so with that let's start the process

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Welcome to another episode of The About the Process podcast where Rufus and I are just going to let you get right into these Kirk Evans interview.

And then we'll talk to you guys all again on the other side of the interview about our normal golf banter.

And then I guess there's a review, Rufus, of us, our Vegas interview where they talk about no one wants to listen to two 50-year-olds

talking about going to Wet Republic. But you're not 50. You're barely, you're not 40.

50-year-olds? Yeah, they're 250-year-olds. Sorry, man. You're not aging well. Look, I played squash the other week against someone who was 27, and when I said I was 39,

he was like, wait, what? I thought you were in your 20s. Yeah. I played basketball against someone

when I told them I was in my 70s. They were shocked. So anyways, let's get Kirk in,

and we'll talk to you guys all on the other side of this interview.

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