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Navigating Via Rearview Mirror: Toxic Leadership, Groupthink and the Management Mess that Led to a Public Health Catastrophe

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Viruses occur in nature. So do epidemics. But where most of the world's leading economies managed the COVID crisis well enough to control it? America under Trump made error after error. What went wrong? Who's to blame other than Trump? Where will this all lead? We discuss with experts Dr. Kavita Patel, former top Obama health advisor, Jeremy Konyndyk, also a former advisor on epidemics to the Obama Administration, David Sanger of the New York Times and co-host Ryan Goodman of "Just Security" and NYU Law School. Don't miss this troubling analysis of how we got where we are and why it may get worse from here.  Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to the latest episode of Deep State Radio.

0:51.0

I am your host David Rothkoff and I'm joining you today from the

0:56.2

far end of Long Island. Somewhere out here also is our usual Thursday co-host, Brian Goodman. You're on Long Island too, right?

1:05.3

I am David, yes. So we're nearer to each other. I'm feeling a lot of positivity in the force as a result.

1:15.6

And we are joined by, let's see,

1:20.0

in Washington, D.C.

1:21.5

we have Dr. Kavita Patel, formerly of the Obama administration,

1:27.3

practicing physician, Brookings.

1:30.8

I mean, she's extremely busy. I saw her in MS NBC yesterday. Hi,

1:35.0

Kavita. Hi, David. Hi, everyone. And also, I think in Washington or thereabouts, we have Jeremy Kanandike who was also in the

1:45.2

Obama administration at USAID and is now with the Center for Global Development.

1:50.6

Hi Jeremy. Hi David, good to be here. Are you in Washington or thereabouts?

1:56.3

That's outside Tacoma Park, just over the line. No, that's across the line, definitely

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