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Radio at wallbuilders.com. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And guys, we'll just jump right in. Heather gets the first question today. And man, this one's on a lot of people's minds. Is the doge, she calls it a department, but is the Doge department illegal or against the

Constitution?

And even when this was talked about the campaign guys, I think we addressed it a little bit

on the show about how do you go about doing this?

What is the president, you know, appoint someone like an Elon Musk to do?

And, you know, it's almost like an ombudsman in a way.

But, but just constitutionally, you got Democrats yelling right now and screaming and acting like,

oh, how dare you look into our, how we're spending your money. So anyway, it's going to be a

fun one to talk about. What do you think? Doge illegal or against the Constitution?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And you're going to hear more and more. And do you think? Doge illegal or against the Constitution? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And you're going to hear more and more, and already you see the lawsuits mounting against it,

because the more it uncovers and the more it brings out and the more sunlight it brings into things,

definitely the more they want to oppose it and take it out. But I think there's some real key

elements to those that have to be considered.

And part of he goes back to a decision I was just reading from Judge Jim Ho on the Fifth Federal

Circuit Court of Appeals. He's out of New Orleans. He's from Texas. But he was dealing in that case

with the concept that, and we talked about it before, you just can't fire federal

employees, right? You can't get rid of these guys. Once the president puts someone in,

they have that civil service act and that civil service act keeps them from being removed.

And Judge Ho was pointing out, and wait a minute, if you're going to say that a federal law

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