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Navigating the Minefields of your Mind w/ Claire Headley

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Our returning guest, Claire Headley was born and raised in Scientology and joined Scientology's "Sea Organization" at 16, including signing a billion-year contract. In the Sea Org, Claire was quickly promoted to Scientology's international headquarters in Hemet, California, where she worked for 14 years, including working as an executive in their Religious Technology Center under David Miscavige, Scientology's current leader. Claire escaped in 2005 at the age of 30, and since that time Claire and her husband Marc (author of Blown for Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology) have been speaking out against Scientology's abusive practices. Claire appeared in 3 seasons of Leah Remini: Scientology & The Aftermath and has contributed to many other documentaries, articles, and radio shows, educating the general public on Scientology. Claire also now serves on the board of The Aftermath Foundation, a non-profit organization that assists people leaving Scientology to start new lives. In this second half of their two-part conversation, Claire recalls for Rachel the inner emotional turmoil she experienced after escaping from Scientology. Rachel offers her insights on the psychological difficulties that are commonplace among people who have recently extricated themselves from all manner of high control groups. Together they examine the types of support that can help ex-group members recover safely and effectively. Claire explains how her advocacy for survivors has been an intrinsic part of her own healing. Before You Go: Rachel examines how many high control groups eliminate communication and anything perceived as negativity among its members. This, she explains keeps them isolated in their suffering, and prevents the peer support that gives individuals the courage to leave. More info on the Headley's lawsuit against Scientology here: https://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/defectors-claire-and-marc-headley-say-church-of-scientology-tried-to/1250163/ More info on Marc Headley's book here: blownforgood.com/ Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Mel Layos and Ato Essandoh!! To help support the show monthly and sign up for cool Indoctrination stickers and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination We also want to give a big shout-out to Jeanette Ojala for increasing her pledge! If you'd like to do the same find out how here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000126286-Editing-your-membership#h_01EPWHK1GFVD92RGVC6GT00ED2 Want to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctriNATION You can help the show for free by leaving a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.2

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.8

Hi, everybody. Before I introduce the guest for today, just a reminder to go to patreon.com.com slash

0:19.8

indoctrination. Patreon.com slash indoctrination. Patreon.com slash

0:23.9

indoctrination to help support the show, to help keep it going. Please, please, please. It would be

0:29.8

wonderful. And if you are interested in the support group that I run for former cult members and for

0:36.8

people also who are or who have

0:39.7

left relationships with people who controlled them, then please contact me at

0:45.5

indoctrination show at gmail.com or contact me privately at bernstein lmft at gmail.com. That's lmf, as in FrankFT at gmail.com.

0:55.3

That's LMF as in Frank T at gmail.com.

0:59.4

Also, there was some interest from people in the UK to start a group.

1:03.8

Please let me know if you are interested and I will put that together for you

1:07.4

and just find a time in my schedule on Pacific Time that would work for you

1:13.8

in your schedule in the UK.

1:22.5

I want to do a special shout out to the people who have been supporters for such a long time,

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who at all different tiers of giving, have really made a commitment to help sustain this show

1:40.6

and have done it over the long term. that has been invaluable. That has really helped it

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grow. That's helped me be able to hire people to polish it and to make it sound like it sounds

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and to get the word out and to be able to help make it more available to the people who need it.

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So thank you so much to our newest patron, Ato, and to our longstanding patrons.

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Stephanie, Sheila, Holly, David, Donna, Michael, Zofia, Patarina, Peter and Cynthia, Camus, Anne Maureen.

2:26.3

Thank you to you and thank you to everyone who supports the show.

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