Navigating Racial Trauma & Identity with Gliceria Pérez & Debra Chatman-Finley Part 2 (SRIW Series, Ep 2, 203)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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This is part of the series, Secure Relating in an Insecure World AND the first of a 2-parter on racial trauma! BIPOC therapists tell the truth about their experiences - from corporate America to working in child protective services, this discussion is full of painful yet unfortunately common experiences of discrimination, intimidation, and blatant inequality. Gliceria Perez and Debra Chatman-Finley join Sue Marriott as they teach white therapists what it's like for clients of color. They also model how to embrace these tough conversations to create a safe space in our communities. www.therapistuncensored.com/episodes

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0:00.0	We have a journey and our journey has brought us to this place where we are, where we need to talk about these things.
0:09.7	We need to write about these things and we're going to. We're in the process of doing that because there's just so much that is out there and trying to integrate all of the information so that we could be helpful to our clients but be helpful to our colleagues so that we
0:24.7	can do that in the period of time that we have left in this world.
0:29.2	There's so many moving pieces, you know, there's so many things that happened to us and even on the
0:34.5	train, the last train stop from Boston, we upgraded to first class and this man
0:41.5	kept checking our tickets.
0:43.2	He kept checking the tickets and we were like,
0:45.1	what's going on?
0:46.1	He's not checking anybody else, but nobody else in first class looked like us.
0:49.0	And he was an African American male, like 70s, 80s,
0:52.4	whenever. And so when we got off he said, no I'm really
0:56.7	sorry I just had to make sure checking your ticket and we're like no that's okay we
1:00.9	know that you were doing your job. He's like I don't know what you girls do, but I want to just tell you that I'm proud of you.
1:06.5	I'm proud of you for sitting up there because it's not often that people like us sit up here and I just want to thank you for what you do.
1:18.6	Welcome to therapist uncensored. Building on decades of professional experience, this podcast tackles
1:24.0	neurobiology, modern attachment, and more in an honest way that's helpful in
1:28.3	healing humans. Your session begins now with Dr. Ann Kelly and Sue Marriott. This is the second of a two-part conversation with Glyceria Perez and Deborah Chapman Finley.
1:48.0	Deborah Chapman Finley is a licensed professional counselor and National Board certified counselor in private practice in Monclare, New Jersey.
1:56.4	She's the former Director of Clinical Services at a domestic violence agency and she has facilitated numerous workshops on race and trauma.
2:07.0	There's a wonderful big list of them including racism, culture, and
2:12.0	dissociation, micro-ag, culture, and dissociation,
2:13.6	micro-aggressions in clinical practice,
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