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Kelly, welcome to the program. I was calling you actually about my mother-in-law. I was listening to your deep dive about mother-in-law and daughter-in-laws.

And I guess I'm wondering where I fall on the spectrum of my level of relationship I would have with my mother-in-law.

I'd like to just tell you a teeny tiny thing about it to give you kind of context if that would be all right.

Sure.

Okay. So three months before my husband and I got married, my mother-in-law took me,

well, my future mother-in-law and my future brother-in-law took me to lunch,

and they began explaining to me how my husband or my future husband is cheap.

And I was a little dumbfounded by this experience and so and when you when you shared with him that they took you

to lunch and that was their conversation what was his reaction? He was shocked.

And then what did he say to you?

And then what did he do afterward?

He did nothing and he was just like, whatever.

That was a huge red flag? Something.

I know. I know. Yes. Yeah, okay. Okay. that was a huge red flag something i know i know yes yeah okay all right i don't know why anybody

bothers buying red flags they don't use them all right i know i know i have to eat this one i

understand but maybe you could just give me some guidance on how to navigate.

So, you know, of course...

How about just minimizing contact? How about just minimizing contact?

When people are dangerous or destructive, minimizing contact is a very smart thing to do.

Then there's less stress on the marriage with you feeling pissed off, angry, etc.

I mean, when the mother of the man you're going to marry and his brother put him down,

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