we cannot wait for governments to tell what you should do. I think it's up to us to collaborate

and don't really wait for anything. You don't need to be with a new title or to be a humanitarian,

to be a human. That's something that we can all do and make those decisions and not wait for

someone to decide for us. We are not bystanders. It is our

story that is happening right now and it is a critical moment in time where we want to

create that hope for all of us.

You're listening to the Great Simplification. I'm Nate Hagen's. On this show, we describe how energy,

the economy, the environment, and human behavior all fit together and what it might mean for our

future. By sharing insights from global thinkers, we hope to inform and inspire more humans

to play emergent roles in the coming great simplification.

Today I'm pleased to be joined by the director of the European sector of the International Federation for the Red Cross, Brigitte Bischoff-Ebbison, for a conversation on the potential role of the Red Cross in navigating future global crises and conflicts like the ones we discuss on this program.

Brigitte is responsible for overseeing operations in Ukraine, as well as other impacted countries where the Red Cross offers millions of people relief in the form of health,

shelter, monetary, and mental health support. With more than 15 years of experience working

with the IFRC, Brigitte previously was the international director of the Danish Red Cross, as well

as the co-chair of the IFRC reference center for psychosocial support.

The International Federation of the Red Cross has a unique opportunity to act as a united

international body coordinating between multiple humanitarian crises at once, as we are increasingly

likely to see in coming decades.

In this discussion, Brigitte discusses her hopes and plans for how to make this possibility an impactful reality.

With that, please welcome Brigitte Bischoff Ebison.

Brigitte, nice to see you.

Nice seeing you, Nate.

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