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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Navigating Heartbreak (Florence Williams)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8900 Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

“It's okay to not be perfect. I don't wanna be judging myself for my imperfections. I actually wanna be accepting myself for my imperfections. And that was really liberating actually. You know, I think so many women, we grow up thinking we are supposed to be perfect. And we internalize, you know, excelling at everything and being good at everything curating our appearance and, you know, being the perfect mom and doing everything right and doing everything right and doing everything right. And just the realization that I was like so over that and feeling like it was actually getting in the way of me having a more authentic understanding of who I was. That’s when I think a corner really started to be turned.” So Says Florence Williams, the author of The Nature Fix and Heartbreak: A Personal and Scientific Journey, which is a beautiful exploration of the end of her marriage—and its impact on her health and her soul. Florence met her husband in college and had never lived alone—much less alone as a middle-aged woman. Their divorce and her resulting heartbreak turned her upside-down, and filled her with an incapacitating amount of anxiety and fear. The resulting memoir offers a map as she returns to herself. Ever the science writer, this isn’t just a treatise on her feelings of rejection and loss—this is also a thoroughly researched guide to the implications of heartbreak on our hearts, full of learnings for all of us.  MORE FROM FLORENCE WILLIAMS: Heartbreak: A Personal and Scientific Journey The Nature Fix: Why Nature Makes Us Happier, Healthier, and More Creative Florence’s Website Follow Florence on Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. I'm thrilled to welcome today's guest,

0:05.7

science writer Florence Williams, whose stunning book, Heartbreak, A Personal and Scientific

0:10.6

Journey, is the focus of today's conversation.

0:17.1

You know what that is? An ice cold beer. What's different?

0:22.6

It's Budweiser.

0:25.6

Food longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:28.6

Like no other.

0:35.6

Cheers to that.

0:36.6

Budweiser, like no other.

0:40.3

Please drink responsibly.

0:41.3

For the facts, visit drinkaware.co.

0:42.3

com.

0:43.3

U.K.

0:44.3

U.K. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

1:04.5

Pulling the thread is about big questions, why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual

1:11.9

and historical context, the ways in which we might begin to understand ourselves and each other

1:16.8

better, and what's required to heal ourselves and our world. I'll be joined in conversation

1:22.2

by luminaries and wise elders, those who have laid tracks in their work and lives to help us

1:27.2

bring meaning and understanding to help us bring meaning

1:27.7

and understanding to a world that often feels chaotic and overwhelming. My hope is that these

1:33.5

conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seas of awareness so that we might all

1:38.9

collectively learn and grow. It's okay to not be perfect.

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