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The Russell Moore Show

Navigating Friendship and Loss with Peter Wehner

The Russell Moore Show

Russell Moore

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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What are Christians to do when political or religious differences are harming—or even ending—their relationships? Why are so many modern people so deeply lonely? And what might it look like to live in peaceful community with people we see as enemies? On this episode of The Russell Moore Show, Peter Wehner, senior fellow at The Trinity Forum and a writer for The Atlantic and The New York Times, joins Moore to discuss friendship, loss, and conflict in today’s world. Wehner and Moore share reflections on their friend Michael Gerson, adviser and speechwriter to George W. Bush and then a Washington Post columnist and author, who recently passed away from cancer at the age of 58. Their insights into Gerson’s suffering, dignity, and civic work include godly ways of thinking about loneliness, friendship, and living in light of the gospel. Wehner and Moore also discuss the dangers of cynicism, the role of social media in political debate, and how gratitude and reconciliation can enhance our lives and relationships. Resources mentioned in this episode include: Peter Wehner, “My friend, Mike Gerson” and “The Evangelical Church is Breaking Apart” Yuval Levin, “Remembering My Friend Mike Gerson” David Brooks, The Second Mountain Jonathan Haidt, The Righteous Mind Amanda Ripley, High Conflict Click here for a trial membership at Christianity Today. “The Russell Moore Show” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producers: Erik Petrik, Russell Moore, and Mike Cosper Host: Russell Moore Producer: Ashley Hales Associate Producers: Abby Perry and Azurae Phelps CT Administration: Christine Kolb Social Media: Kate Lucky Director of Operations for CT Media: Matt Stevens Production Assistance: coreMEDIA Audio Engineer: Kevin Duthu Coordinator: Beth Grabenkort Video Producer: John Roland Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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PEDcast. Please and see apply. You're going to. Hello. Hello, this is Russell Moore, and you're listening to the Russell Moore show brought to you

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by Christianity today.

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Every week we explore conversations and questions from a Christian perspective.

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And you know in this show it's often fun when I'm talking to somebody that I don't know or I've never talked to before and I'm learning things from that person.

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But I like it better when I'm talking to friends so that I can kind of bring you into a

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conversation that's already going on. And so I'm glad to have that happening today, even though it's precipitated by a sad situation for both of us.

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My guest today is Peter Wainer, who is Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum.

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He writes for the Atlantic and you've probably read him in many many places over the years and this past a couple of weeks he wrote

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a piece really beautiful piece in the Atlantic called my friend Mike Gerson, which was about our friend Mike

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who died of cancer at the age of 58. I'd known Mike for little over 10 years. Pete had known Mike

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really well, had a close friendship with Mike that went back many years back to when they both served in the George

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W Bush administration and so the article this piece was really beautiful.

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Now some of you will know Michael Gerson, you will have read

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