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Mama Knows

Navigating catastrophic thinking anxiety w/ Carrie Howard

Mama Knows

Cloud10

Parenting, Kids & Family

5 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this conversation, Nina and Carrie delve into the complexities of catastrophic thinking and high functioning anxiety. Nina shares her personal experiences with catastrophic thoughts, particularly in her roles as a professional and a mother. Carrie, a therapist specializing in high functioning anxiety, explains the nature of this anxiety and how it manifests in seemingly successful individuals. They discuss the disconnect between external appearances and internal struggles, the mechanisms behind catastrophic thinking, and the roots of these thought patterns. The conversation also explores the differences between anticipatory anxiety and healthy preparation, providing insights into managing these feelings effectively. In this conversation, Nina and Carrie Howard delve into the complexities of catastrophic thinking, exploring its roots in fear and anxiety. They discuss how different individuals experience catastrophic thoughts in various situations and provide practical strategies for recognizing and managing these thoughts. The conversation emphasizes the importance of sitting with discomfort and uncertainty, as well as offering support to loved ones who may struggle with anxiety. Carrie shares valuable techniques for grounding oneself and fostering a sense of safety, ultimately encouraging listeners to cultivate self-awareness and compassion in their mental health journeys. 00:00: Understanding Catastrophic Thinking03:05: High Functioning Anxiety Explained06:03: The Disconnect Between Appearance and Reality08:34: Defining Catastrophic Thinking09:13: The Mechanism of Catastrophic Thinking11:37: The Roots of Catastrophic Thinking17:51: Anticipatory Anxiety vs. Catastrophic Thinking19:10: Healthy Preparation vs. Catastrophic Thinking20:50: Understanding Catastrophic Thinking23:56: Practical Strategies to Combat Catastrophizing30:06: Sitting with Discomfort and Uncertainty34:00: Supporting Others Through Catastrophic Thinking Carrie Howard is a licensed anxiety therapist, mental health educator, and content creator who specializes in high-functioning anxiety, overthinking, perfectionism, and people-pleasing. With over a decade of clinical experience—and a personal journey with anxiety herself—she helps women face their fears, build self-trust, and navigate life with more confidence and calm. Carrie’s work has been featured in outlets like Good Morning America, Shape, HuffPost, and Verywell Mind, and she’s known for blending professional insight with a deeply compassionate, relatable approach. Episode Sponsor: Get started at factormeals.com/mamaknows50off and use code mamaknows50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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catastrophic thinking. And I was just telling Carrie here that it's such a scary and big word.

1:07.7

Like you don't want to say that, oh, yeah, I have catastrophic thinking. But when you

1:11.7

actually like break it down, that's what it is. For me, this is a couple examples for me personally.

1:16.8

So at the workplace, like if my boss would say to me or send an email and say, hey, like I'd love to have a

1:23.5

meeting, blah, blah, blah. And immediately the instant thought in my head is, I'm getting fired,

1:28.5

I did something wrong, I made a mistake, and my life is over. Like, those are the immediate

1:33.4

thoughts that I have in those situations, and then I cannot chill out until that meeting. And the

1:39.3

meeting is usually like, oh, I have a project for you that I'd love for you to take on because you're,

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