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The Bulletin

Navigating Anxiety with Resilience

The Bulletin

Christianity Today

News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Christianity

4.4586 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Here at The Bulletin, our summer programming is underway and we’re re-airing our best segments around a theme. This week: Clarissa sits down with author Sara Billups to unpack our collective societal anxiety and how to navigate it in our daily lives. Sheila Wise Rowe chats with Mike and Russell about managing pressure as a ministry leader and Steve Cuss explains healthy ways to handle workplace stress. REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE: Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups Healing Leadership Trauma by Sheila Wise Rowe and Nicholas Rowe  Being Human with Steve Cuss GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN:  Join the conversation at our Substack. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE GUESTS:  Sara Billups is a Seattle-based writer and cultural commentator whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Christianity Today, Aspen Ideas, and others. Sara writes Bitter Scroll, a monthly Substack letter and co-hosts the podcast That’s the Spirit. She earned a Doctor of Ministry in the Sacred Art of Writing at the Peterson Center for the Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary.  Sheila Wise Rowe is a graduate of Tufts University and Cambridge College with a master’s degree in counseling psychology. She has over thirty years of experience as a Christian Counselor, Spiritual Director, Educator, Writer, and Speaker. Sheila has counseled women, children, couples, emerging, and established leaders and taught counseling in Massachusetts, Paris France, virtually. And for a decade in Johannesburg, South Africa where she also ministered to homeless and abused women and children. Sheila’s essays can be found in numerous blogs, newspapers, journals, and books. In 2020 she authored the award-winning book, Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience. Recently she wrote Young, Gifted, and Black: A Journey of Lament and Celebration and has co-authored Healing Leadership Trauma. Steve Cuss is a pastor, former chaplain, and founder of Capable Life which helps people lower internal and relational anxiety in the workplace and at home. He is the author of Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs and The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God. Steve hosts the CT Media podcast, Being Human. ABOUT THE BULLETIN:  The Bulletin is a twice-weekly news analysis podcast from Christianity Today, with editor-at-large Russell Moore. Each episode offers commentary on current events and headlining news with a roundtable of premier guests, and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world   The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more.    “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Host: Leslie Thompson Associate Producers: Alexa Burke and Crystal Dady   Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps  Executive Producer: Erik Petrik  Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Leslie Thompson, producer of the Russell Moore Show, filling in this week as your host.

1:00.6

Our summer programming is underway, and today's episode features great conversations on a subject we are all undoubtedly familiar with, anxiety, welcoming Sarah Billups, Steve Cuss, and Sheila

1:06.8

Weiss Row. Welcome to the show. The fast pace of today's news cycle, always ever present

1:17.2

through social media, can leave many of us feeling overwhelmed and anxious. The bulletin wants to help

1:23.3

lower the temperature by providing, in the words one of you left in a review on Apple

1:27.8

podcasts, solid facts, hope, and a Christian perspective. So on today's show, we're addressing

1:34.9

the topic of anxiety. To do so, we chose three conversations from previous episodes with

1:40.6

experts who have devoted much of their work to helping people identify and cope with anxiety.

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The first segment is taken from a conversation between Clarissa Mall and Sarah Billups, author of the book,

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Nervous Systems. The book centers around the idea of collective public anxiety, when feelings of

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fear and uncertainty are shared across a population.

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Billips sheds light on where collective public anxiety shows up, how to meet it with honesty,

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and what Jesus uniquely offers in a world filled with real and imagined trouble.

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Here are Clarissa Mall and Sarah Billups.

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