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Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Navigating AI opportunities at MYOB

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.753 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

How should businesses go about actually navigating AI? It's one thing to strategize and generate new ideas, but what needs to be done to put it into practice in a way that's effective and commercially impactful?

In this episode of the Technology Podcast, new host Nigel Dalton is joined by his Thoughtworks colleague May Xu — Head of Tech for Thoughtworks APAC — and Simon Noonan, CTO at Australian business software company MYOB.

Thoughtworks has been working closely with MYOB for a number of years now; May and Simon explain how they collaborate and offer their perspectives on everything from leadership to architecture in a world where AI has become imperative.

Learn more about Thoughtworks' partnership with MYOB: https://www.thoughtworks.com/clients/myob

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology Podcast.

0:11.1

My name is Nigel Dalton.

0:13.0

I'm guest hosting the podcast today.

0:15.1

I'm a social scientist, not an engineer, so that'll bring a different perspective and that's useful because we're going to take a

0:21.2

different perspective on a very popular topic today. It's July 2025, and today's exam question is,

0:28.6

so, I'm exhausted by all this media hype about artificial intelligence for software delivery.

0:35.6

What are the real people in real companies actually doing? And to answer

0:41.5

that question we have in the studio today, two very real people armed with data and experience

0:47.7

earned by making AI work for a very well-known Australian company, MIOB. So today we get no AI slop, no vibe coding,

0:57.9

no marrying your robot. Thanks Gary V for frightening us all. Just real world experience.

1:03.4

So welcome to MIOB Simon Noonan, Thorworks very own Maysou, seat packs upright, tray tables folded away. Let's get going.

1:13.7

And let's start with some introductions. Who are we? And how are we using AI? Let's cross to you,

1:19.3

Mae. Thanks, Nigel. Very glad to be here. So I'm Meshu, a regional head of tech for SOWA SEAPAC.

1:26.9

And I'm also a regional head of tech for SOVAAC. And I'm also a consultant.

1:30.6

I'm actually very cautious in adopting AI myself.

1:34.5

So I definitely believe AI has a transformational impact across all.

1:40.3

But it is not a silver bullet.

1:43.3

So actually at home, I used to, like, say,

1:46.3

call some of my case questions used to call them as, like, Google questions.

1:50.7

Now I call them actually like a chat GPT questions.

1:54.0

So when the case asking those, I redirect them to that way.

1:57.4

So on work, actually, like Gemini deep research has become my new favorite.

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