Navalny Pal on What’s Next for Putin If He Wins—or Loses

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🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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The attack on Ukraine isn’t going how Russian President Vladimir Putin thought it would, co-host Molly Jong-Fast posits in today’s episode of The New Abnormal. Vladimir Ashurkov, a colleague of anti-Putin opposition leader Alexei Navalny, joins the pod to explain what’s next for Putin—whether he wins or loses the war. Then, NBC News’ Jonathan Allen talks about what he saw at CPAC (the The Conservative Political Action Conference), including a screaming match at a bar where two men argued about Ukraine and one called the other a “shrill for the Queen.” Plus, co-host Andy Levy has a message for Marjorie Taylor Greene: “It’s OK to cancel Nazis.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Molly John Fass, no relationship to Kim Jong-un.
0:04.6	I'm a left-wing pundit and a writer at the Atlantic Envo.
0:08.0	And I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN Guy and current cable news conscientious
0:13.6	objective.
0:14.6	And I've produced Suggesticated and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off
0:18.0	the rails.
0:19.0	We're here to have fun, smart conversations with the wisest and funniest people in science
0:23.5	and media and politics that help make what's happening today clearer.
0:28.0	Our world has been turned upside down and on the new app normal we'll talk about the
0:31.8	people who got us into this mess and how we'll hopefully get ourselves out of it.
0:35.7	When interesting show we have today, first we're going to talk to Vladimir Shurkov, executive
0:39.9	director of Alexa Navalny's Anti-Corruption Foundation.
0:42.7	He's going to talk to us about Russia's invasion of the Ukraine.
0:46.0	Then we'll talk to NBC News John Allen about all the fun he had attending CPAC.
0:50.4	But first, let's have some fun.
0:52.6	Andy and Levy.
0:53.6	Molly Jong-Fast.
0:55.2	Since everything is always 2016 and we are trapped in that horrible year forever and ever
1:02.1	and ever, we find ourselves in the middle of this absolutely heartbreaking conflict where
1:08.0	Vladimir Putin is trying to take Ukraine.
1:10.8	Nobody even knows why, though there are many theories.
1:13.8	And Republicans find themselves very much on the wrong side of this.
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