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🗓️ 18 August 2025
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In this watery simulation of an episode, Matt and Chris uncover the true purpose of Scott Adams’ existence: not to shape reality, but to provide training data for future AIs working on plumbing-related problems. Somewhere in a cosmic server farm, Scott is endlessly confronted with blocked drains, dripping faucets, and municipal water conspiracies, while his “insights” fuel the next generation of household maintenance bots.
Against this surreal backdrop, Naval Ravikant enters the scene — investor, tweeter, self-styled philosopher, and, in practice, just another discourse surfer riding the waves of online conspiracism. The conversation opens with a familiar chorus of right-wing talking points, drifts into feverish speculation about lawfare, censorship, and “imported voters,” and finally winds down in the dim light of dorm-room metaphysics, where slogans like “happiness is a choice” are served up as if they were profound insights.
Naval presents himself as a detached sage, offering a boutique blend of political commentary and Daoist-tinged wisdom. In reality, he delivers little more than predictable polemics and recycled aphorisms. Imagining himself a great man of history dispensing lyrical truths in tweet-sized form, he produces nothing that rises above the usual culture-war debris. The posture is Buddha-with-a-smartphone; the reality is a credulous tech elite mistaking his own Twitter feed for a philosophy seminar.
What follows is Elon-as-Ben-Franklin fanboying, Trump rebranded as a “bottom-up” leader of the people, and a level of self-congratulation so thick it could be used to terraform Mars. By the end, you may find yourself nostalgic for the leaky pipes in Scott’s simulation — at least they produce real water...
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0:00.0 | I'm |
0:02.0 | I'm going to be. |
0:02.0 | The The Hello and welcome to Decoding the Gurus, the podcast. |
0:07.0 | We're an anthropologist and a psychologist. |
0:29.7 | Listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer. |
0:31.3 | We try to understand what they're talking about. |
0:33.8 | I'm Matt Brown. |
0:36.3 | My co-host there is Chris Kavanaugh. |
0:37.4 | I'm a psychologist from Australia. He is, well, he's kind of also a psychologist. He teaches in a |
0:40.3 | psychology school in Japan. Good day, Chris. How's it going? Not bad. I'm impressed you've |
0:46.4 | finally remembered that. What I it going? Not bad. I'm impressed you've finally remembered that. |
0:54.1 | What I am, what my essence is, that's impressive. |
0:56.0 | It took a number of years, but like Pavlov's dog, you've been reinforced in the correct association eventually. |
1:00.0 | You evolved into a psychologist, just like so many species evolve into crabs. |
1:08.0 | Yeah, I'm a, what do you call those, like mimic, you know, like a caterpillar that pretends it's a snake? |
1:13.6 | Yeah. |
1:19.6 | You've got all those bright, bright colors all over you and they, I didn't have a replication crisis. |
1:22.6 | I did it. |
1:29.3 | Yeah, it's a tough life here in the interdisciplinary boundaries. |
1:30.3 | But you know, I'm willing to do it. |
1:36.3 | No one else is willing to do it, but I'm willing to do it. |
1:38.3 | Nobody asked me to do it. |
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