What was God thinking about when he desired evangelism? Was he thinking they're going to struggle?

It's going to be a problem. They want to run a mile. Or was he actually thinking they'd enjoy it?

But they'd be good in it. Actually, how about that we just go out and we live life 24-7, so aware of him and so full of his perfect love,

that actually it's the easiest thing in the world to share your faith

because you don't have any fear in that.

Welcome, everybody. This is Simon Gilbo with Inspired.

Great to you back again for another fantastic week of encouragement and inspiration.

Basically, if you're new to inspired,

I get so sick to death of being bombarded by a relentless barrage of bad news and the media,

things that just induce anxiety and fear and depression and negativity.

And this, I think, why it's been so fruitful and why it's exploding in growth,

which I'm really chuffed about, The inspired podcast just brings good news.

It's friends of mine from all sorts of different walks of life who are doing beautiful stuff, be it in the workplace, be it in this country overseas.

But the common denominator is that they've had a profound encounter with Jesus,

and that has totally been a game changer in their lives.

And I'm really excited because this week we got with us Mark and Fiona Gnardt. and that has totally been a game changer in their lives.

And I'm really excited because this week we got with us Mark and Fiona Gilpin.

Welcome, Mark and Fiona.

Thank you, sir, ma'am.

Do you know, it's interesting actually because we've done, you know, I think we're on about 150.

And I've always done one of the two and a couple.

This is the first time we've done a joint couple thing. It coincides with a change of software that makes it a bit easier. So it's nice that we've got a tag team here. You guys, you've both got sort of jobs in the, in the secular space, if you like, but also you've pioneered and written a course, the dazzle course to help people share their faith. I've got your book in front of me, which I read last week. Well, God's dream, our greatest privilege. We met a few years back on the J. John Evangelist's Conference, which is a brilliant way of kicking off our year. And listen, I don't know much about your background. So let's just go back. Both of you, you know, what was the start of your faith journeys? I think,

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