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The Brian Lehrer Show

NATO Summit Roundup

The Brian Lehrer Show

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Jen Kirby, a senior foreign and national security reporter at Vox, and Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group and GZero Media, talk about the NATO summit in Lithuania, Turkey's decision not to block Sweden's membership in the alliance, and how they are responding to the ongoing war in Ukraine.

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0:00.0

It's the Ryan Lair Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. On today's show, we'll take

0:16.5

your temperature on this well-during day. On your evolving relationships with the tech

0:21.8

giants. Are you one of the hundred million people, we are given that number, hundred million

0:26.7

people who signed up for threads since it debuted last week. If so, what's it like for you?

0:32.1

And did you leave Twitter or just add on? Also a call in for this fake holiday known

0:38.3

as Amazon Prime Day on how you're cutting back on online shopping as the pandemic emergency

0:44.5

has eased. But let's start with World Affairs. Let's pick up where the BBC left off.

0:50.6

President Biden is at the NATO Summit in Vilnius, Lithuania today, as you've heard, as

0:55.9

one headline on Vox sarcastically put it. After all of that, Turkey will support Sweden's

1:02.4

NATO bid. But why do we care where Turkey thinks? Why are they in NATO? The North Atlantic

1:08.3

treaty organization is Turkey even in the North Atlantic? It also wants to be in the EU.

1:14.4

You can make a case that Turkey is geographically in Europe at least, with part of it on the

1:19.2

Balkan peninsula there in Southeast Europe. But why does Turkey want in when the talk

1:24.4

in England and some other places is about getting out? What does it mean in 2023 to be European?

1:31.5

And for that matter, who does it matter to whether the famously neutral Sweden is in NATO?

1:36.4

Are they going to be sending cluster bombs to Vladimir Zelensky? In any case, remember

1:41.3

when Donald Trump is president said NATO is obsolete? Apparently, it's not. And how much

1:47.3

is this meeting about Sweden and Turkey at all? Isn't it really about Russia and Ukraine?

1:52.9

U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan kind of made it sound like that when he spoke

1:57.6

in Vilnius yesterday?

2:00.2

Soon, we will be able to say that since this war began, since Russia invaded Ukraine,

2:07.4

we have welcomed two new members of NATO with strong militaries, expanding both the size

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