NATO, mistakes we made in Libya, and lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan

Pod Save the World

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🗓️ 7 June 2017

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Tommy talks with former US Ambassador to NATO Ivo Daalder about Trump’s disastrous trip to NATO before transitioning to a broader conversation about when the global community should use military force. Ivo offers an unvarnished take on the mistakes the US and NATO made in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

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0:00.0	Welcome back to PodSafe the World.
0:04.2	This is Tommy.
0:05.2	Thank you guys for tuning in.
0:06.4	My guest today is Evo Daldor, who is the U.S. permanent representative at NATO during
0:11.2	the Obama administration, served on the National Security Council during the Clinton administration
0:15.0	as a Europe expert.
0:16.4	The conversation started with the basics about NATO.
0:19.6	We talked through Trump's trip, but it evolved into a broader conversation about Libya, Iraq,
0:24.7	and Afghanistan, and the role of the U.S. military and NATO in the world.
0:30.3	It was very self-critical about things that we worked on that actually in hindsight didn't
0:35.2	go that well.
0:36.2	It was a fascinating conversation for me.
0:37.8	It was not the one I was expecting to have, but I think it was actually a lot better and
0:41.3	more valuable to hear that perspective and to hear his honesty.
0:45.6	So check it out.
0:46.6	I think you'll enjoy it.
0:47.7	And thanks again.
0:48.7	Evo, thank you so much for being here all the way live from the great city of Chicago,
0:54.6	the place I miss very, very much.
0:56.3	Yeah, I know a lot to be here.
0:58.0	My first question for you is the basics.
1:00.9	What is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, aka NATO, and why is it so important in your
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