What's your position with NATO?

NATO's dead.

Do you think NATO's dead?

NATO's dead.

We're writing its obituary. We meet at a dangerous moment. The world has learned that Americans can beat. That's what I'm telling. The strait of Hormuz still blocked. What did the administration not know about Iran-Pri going in? If you punish them enough, they're going to cave. They're not going to cave. And you yourself have said you don't understand why.

Washington has insisted Iraq If you punish them enough, they're going to cave. They're not going to cave.

And you yourself have said you don't understand why.

Washington has insisted Iran must accept strict limits on its nuclear program before the war can end.

I'm not satisfied with it.

If I start to punish you, Patrick, and I want that microphone from you, and I'm going to threaten to take that pen and stab it in your hand. What am I going to do next? I want your computer, or I'm going to do it again. I want the shirt off your back, or I'm going to do it again. Once you give in to the bully, you're his or her forever. Iran calling Trump's effort delusional. You have three different types of people. Fight, flight, freeze.

Yes, but within that distribution,

once you have that amount who will fight,

you are in a different world of hurt.

You could possibly find.

Nobody wants to, so everybody who sees it like, wait a minute, what is your real name? Because your real name is not pantry. No, I understand. That's the thing we get all the time. I'm like, I'm a Syrian-Armenian. So, anyways, great to have you on, truly. Yeah, really, absolutely. I'm looking forward to this, too. I've seen your stuff. I want to say we both agreed on the in the back when we're talking.

I don't know if anybody picks better titles. I'm looking forward to this too. I've seen your stuff. I want to say we both agreed on the,

in the back when we're talking. I don't know if anybody picks better title names for books than you. Thank you. So you got bombing to win. Yes. Ninety-six. What a great title for a vote. Thank you. Dying to win. So when it's bombing to win, dying to win, 2005. And it's deeper than that because if you had read bombing to win, and I know you haven't,

but if you had read it and the academic world did, as soon as they saw the title for my book on suicide terrorism,

they already had half of the story.

Because once you get inside and understand what it takes to win, then you apply it here so it has more meanings than it's it's a really interesting thing when you have

multiple audiences and over time um so i've been an academic but it's not only been an academic

i've been in the public since 1991 so a long time this is not my first rode oh no it's not only been an academic. I've been in the public since 1991. So a long

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