NATO engages Russia for first time after drone attack on Poland
Ukraine: The Latest
Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Day 1,295.
Today, in a historic moment for Europe, NATO fighter jets shoot down Russian drones over Poland in the first ever direct engagement between the Western alliance and Moscow. We assess the global reaction and what it means, before asking how Vladimir Putin is manipulating the information space to conceal his crimes and shape opinion.
Contributors:
Francis Dearnley (Executive Editor for Audio). @FrancisDearnley on X.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor of Defence). @DomNicholls on X.
Peter Pomerantsev (Chief Editor and Co-founder of The Reckoning Project) @peterpomeranzev on X.
Scott Martin (International Lawyer at Global Rights Compliance)
Content Referenced:
Nato engages Russia for first time (The Telegraph):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/10/nato-russia-drones-shot-down-poland-fighter-jets/
Telegraph Ukraine Live Blog on Poland Crisis:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/10/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-drones-poland-nato/
Manufacturing Impunity: Russian Information Operations in Ukraine — Russia’s Use of Information Alibis and How They Materially Contribute to the Planning, Execution and Cover-up of International Crimes (Global Rights Compliance, in collaboration with the leading advocacy organisation The Reckoning Project):
https://globalrightscompliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Manufacturing-Impunity.pdf
‘NATO States Have Failed’ (Phillips O’Brien Substack):
https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/nato-states-have-failed
For the first time in 10 years, Ukraine and Poland exhumed and reburied the victims of the Volyn tragedy (Babel):
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. I'm Francis Dernley and this is Ukraine, the latest. Today, in a historic moment for Europe, NATO fighter jets shoot down Russian drones over Poland in the first ever direct engagement between the Western Alliance and Moscow. |
| 0:23.6 | We assess the global reaction and what it means before asking how Russia is manipulating the information space to conceal its crimes today and shape opinion. |
| 0:33.6 | Bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory. |
| 0:43.4 | The Russia does not want peace. |
| 0:45.2 | With our help for the Ukraine, also our freedom and our European values. |
| 0:51.1 | If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. |
| 0:55.0 | We are with you, not just today or tomorrow, but for a hundred years. |
| 1:00.0 | We can't, as European, let's be gained the Russia in Ukraine. |
| 1:04.0 | Nobody's going to break us. |
| 1:06.0 | We're strong. |
| 1:07.0 | We're Ukrainians. |
| 1:09.0 | It's Wednesday, the 10th of September, three years and 200 days since the full-scale invasion |
| 1:15.3 | began. |
| 1:16.3 | And today I'm joined by our associate editor of defense, Dominic Nichols, and Peter Pomerantsev, |
| 1:21.1 | chief editor and co-founder of the Reckoning Project, as well as Scott Martin, an international |
| 1:25.3 | lawyer at global rights compliance. |
| 1:32.5 | But first, over to Dom, for a summary of the military situation and the crisis in Poland. |
| 1:39.3 | Thanks, Francis. Hello, everyone. So no surprise, we're going to start with the incursion into Polish airspace yesterday. |
| 1:44.8 | NATO jets shot down Russian drones that repeatedly violated Poland's airspace in an overnight bombardment of Ukraine, we are told, this morning. Polish, Dutch and Italian fighter aircraft were |
| 1:50.0 | scrambled to intercept 19 drones as citizens, particularly in the east of Poland, were told to stay |
| 1:56.0 | at home. It marks the most serious clash between Russia and the NATO alliance since the start of the full-scale invasion in Ukraine, |
| 2:03.3 | arguably taking the conflict into uncharted territory. |
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