NATO and Ukraine Beyond 75, Japan Hosts Pacific Islands, France’s Political Gridlock, and More

The World Next Week

Council on Foreign Relations

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4.6 • 845 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) wraps its seventy-fifth summit, pledging to keep Ukraine on an “irreversible” path to membership while concerns grow about the future of U.S. commitment; Japan hosts the tenth Pacific Islands Leaders Meeting to counter China’s influence in the region; France struggles to form a government as party differences intensify; and President-Elect Masoud Pezeshkian raises hopes for possible change in Iran. Mentioned on the Podcast A Conversation With Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark, Council on Foreign Relations Emmanuel Macron, “A Letter to the French People,” Le Parisien Pacific Aid Map, Lowy Institute Ray Takeyh, “What Could Change Under Iran’s New ‘Reformist’ President?,” CFR.org Washington Summit Declaration, NATO Sarah Wheaton, “Orbán’s Humble Pie,” Politico For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The World Next Week at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/nato-and-ukraine-beyond-75-japan-hosts-pacific-islands-frances-political-gridlock-and-more

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0:00.0	In the coming week, an anxious NATO tries to build on the post-summit momentum.
0:05.0	Japan hosts Pacific Island leaders amid rising competition with China,
0:09.0	and France considers the cost of political deadlock.
0:12.0	It's July 11, 2024, in time for the world next week. I'm Baumickman.
0:27.6	And I'm Carl Ann Robbins.
0:29.4	Carl, let's start right here in Washington, where as we were taping this podcast, leaders of the transatlantic alliance were wrapping things up.
0:43.3	Not only is this a major anniversary for the alliance, 75 years, it's also the first time Sweden was attending as a member. There have been a great deal of comments in support of Ukraine, very strong communique, which I'll let you address how you'd like as well.
0:52.3	Which I actually read it.
0:56.3	Which I know you read it. That's why I'm leaving it to you.
1:02.0	But there are concerns that the circumstances facing some of the key NATO members, such as U.S., Germany and France, to name a few, could be affecting their ability or their resolve
1:08.0	in the year and years ahead. So how is NATO looking for the future 75 years, Carla?
1:15.6	Well, by pretty much everything at this NATO summit,
1:18.6	and I suspect this is going to continue in the weeks and months ahead,
1:22.1	has been overshadowed by one thing, and that's U.S. politics,
1:26.0	and this perceived implosion of Joe Biden's presidential
1:29.1	campaign after his disastrous debate performance. And national security is all about planning.
1:36.1	You can't plan for everything, but NATO has planning staff. And trying to what officials
1:41.9	are calling Trump-proof the alliance. That is sound planning.
1:46.9	But I'm not sure how much can be guaranteed for all they're trying to do. One of the big deliverables of the summit was NATO's statement that Ukraine is now on a, quote, irreversible path to membership, although there are still no dates attached to our actual process. But even before
2:02.6	the NATO communique with its carefully negotiated wording was released, Elbridge Colby, who's a senior
2:07.8	official in the Trump Pentagon, and who will likely be back if Trump wins in November,
2:12.7	told Politico that the commitment to NATO membership for Ukraine was, of course, quote,
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