Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Revealed.

For too long, Indigenous people have been marginalised or viewed merely as passive participants in the history of the United States.

That's one of the arguments Ned Blackhawk makes in his sweeping new account, the rediscovery of America, native peoples and the unmaking of US history.

Ned spoke to Matt Elton about how Native Americans played key roles in

everything from the course of European colonisation to 20th century bids for equality and

self-determination. I'm joined today by Ned Blackhawk to talk about his book, The Rediscovery of

America, Native Peoples and the Unmaking of U.S. history, which is a really

expansive, comprehensive sort of reimagining of U.S. history. Before we get into some of the

particular historical episodes you explore in the book, I wanted to talk a bit about some of the

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