Before we start this History Extra podcast, we want to tell you a bit about this week's sponsor, Warner Hotels.

BBC History Magazine is running two history weekends at Warner Hotels in October and November this year.

So if you were looking for a relaxing and historical UK escape this autumn, let me mark your card about these weekends.

Ideal for history lovers. Each free night stay includes breakfast, dinner and live entertainment,

plus fascinating talks and Q&As with top historians such as Fernredale, Ruth Goodman,

Janina Ramirez, Mark Morris, Gordon Carrera and Tracy Borman. What a treat.

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Welcome to the History Extra podcast, fascinating historical conversations from the makers of BBC History magazine.

The story of Native American societies being decimated by European arrival is a sadly

familiar one. But while undoubtedly important, that's actually only one part of the story. In her new book, Native Nations,

Kathleen Deval looks at a thousand years of the history of North America's indigenous people

to uncover a richer, more complex picture of Native American lives and experiences.

The book is shortlisted for the Kundal History Prize, of which we are immediately picture of Native American lives and experiences.

The book is shortlisted for the Kundal History Prize of which we are a media partner,

and I spoke to Kathleen to find out more.

It's lovely to have you on the podcast, Kathleen.

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