Oh, no, no, no. We're not. The electricity and that cable was not? Yeah.

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Yeah. Oh yeah You know what about, what's your name? I'd like to welcome to Slightly Offensive for the first time journalist and host a System Update on Rumbull. Glenn Greenwald, welcome to Slightly Offensive.

Happy to be here. Thanks for us to me.

Okay, so let's just jump straight into this.

I mean, there seems to be somewhat of a right-wing or nationalist. journalist Up.

Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, there are

backlashes of protests in France and in Ireland and I can feel the momentum as Trump is moving into his next run for the president of the United States. But before we even

jump and talk into that, do you really feel like there's a genuine authentic

populist nationalist uprising brewing or is this just the elites once again putting a little steam valve so that we don't fully revolt or fully,

you know, resist their global takeover.

I think it's a little bit of both. If you go back a couple of years and I don't know if you know but I live in Brazil and have for some time in 2018 there was the selection of Jair Bolsonaro, who was a complete departure from everything that came before him.

For 16 years, Brazil had been run by this center left left wing government the workers

party of Lula de Silva and out of nowhere Bolsonaro who was in Congress for

30 years considered this very far right figure on the kind of margins, was able to parlay a lot of

media appearances and then a lot of anger toward political elites into a presidential run that no one at the beginning expected would it get near close to victory and he

ended up winning rather easily and so you have Trump in 2016 Bolsonaro in 2018 you have a string of victories since, obviously that was preceded by Brexit,

which I would put into the same populist right-wing revolt.

And now you have, as you said, Milay in Argentina,

the extraordinary victory of the far right

and the Netherlands.

But I think the one really important thing

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