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Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler

Nationalism Revisited and Reasserted — A Conversation with Yoram Hazony

Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

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🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

This is Thinking in Public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about frontline theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.
In this edition of the popular podcast series “Thinking in Public,” Dr. Albert Mohler speaks with President of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem and Chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation, Yoram Hazony. They discuss his new book, “The Virtue of Nationalism.”
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0:00.0

This is Thinking in Public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about frontline theological

0:07.9

and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.

0:11.3

I'm Albert Moller, your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville,

0:15.7

Kentucky.

0:16.8

Yeram Hazzoni is president of the Heraldstall Institute in Jerusalem and chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation.

0:22.8

He earned his Bachelor of Arts from Princeton University, his Ph.D. from Rutgers University,

0:28.0

in political theory. Dr. Hazzoni is an award-winning author. His book, The Virtue of Nationalism,

0:34.1

won the Conservative Book of the Year Award from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute for 2019.

0:39.6

In its revised and expanded edition of that book, it has just appeared again.

0:44.7

The virtue of nationalism is the topic of our conversation today.

0:49.1

Professor Hazani, welcome to thinking in public.

0:52.0

Good to be here.

0:53.0

Thank you for having me.

0:54.0

I really enjoyed our conversation on your book on conservatism.

0:57.5

I have really looked forward to this conversation.

1:00.4

On the reissue of your book, The Virtue of Nationalism.

1:04.0

Honestly, I think this is the most important book on the issue of nationalism written in our times.

1:10.1

And I appreciate the fact that it's

1:11.5

already out in what amounts to a revised and expanded edition. I'd appreciate you kind of tell me

1:17.8

the story of how this book came about. Well, I think everybody probably remembers 2016.

1:25.3

It was a time of almost panic, a meltdown that was taking place first in the UK over

1:36.3

Brexit, which to my amazement was received by elites in Britain and in Europe, really with kind of hysteria.

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