This is the Kator Daily Podcast for Monday, January 15th, 2024.

I'm Caleb Brown.

When the ACLU took up the NRA's case in New York, it's worth getting behind the headline of

strange bedfellows working to defend certain legal and constitutional

principles to what New York is actually trying to accomplish and how they're trying to do it.

I spoke with Cato's Walter Olson and Andrew Grossman last week.

The following message is brought to you by citizens for obligatory disclosures.

Andrew there's something you need to say right up front.

Right.

I am outside counsel for the National Rifle Association.

We're discussing their case today,

but I'm speaking here in my personal capacity

and as a Cato scholar.

So let's talk about this case.

If all you followed was the moment when we learned that the ACLU would be representing the NRA,

in this case, so much of the response in my highly discerning group of people who follow me and people I follow on Twitter

were saying, hey look guys, looks like the ACLU's doing this this

principled thing. Isn't that great? And and for the most part you wouldn't have even gotten to what the substance of the case was.

So Walter, if you don't mind, detail what the fundamentals of this case are.

Sure.

The State of New York for years pursued policies which it was willing to talk about publicly, discouraging

banks and insurance companies from dealing with the NRA and citing its gun advocacy role, the fact that it's the leading Second Amendment advocacy group as a reason for that.

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