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Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

National Reality Disorder with Robert J. Lifton

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2019

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) sits down with Robert J. Lifton to remind you how bad things have gotten politically— but that remaining optimistic is not totally insane. They begin by drawing the parallels between Trump and other cult leaders/demagogues. Afterwards, they discuss the followers of Trump, why they remain followers, and how to get them to (hopefully) leave. Tune in for an unexpectedly hopeful episode about deathly cults! Thanks to our sponsors! Candid’s aligners can help straighten your teeth faster than traditional wire braces. Treatment takes just 6 months on average. Candid’s aligners are comfortable, removable, and completely invisible. Get your “Photo Ready” smile by the holidays! Go to Candidco.com/FRIENDS and use code FRIENDS to get seventy-five dollars off. Rothy’s has quickly grown to a most-loved, gotta-have-them brand. It’s no surprise they have over 1,000 nearly perfect reviews. You’ll quickly discover why Buzzfeed called them their “forever shoes.” Check out all the amazing styles available right now at rothys.com/wflt. We all know how important it is to eat healthy. But the reality is, 9 out of 10 people don’t eat enough fruits and veggies. Your Super’s functional superfood and plant protein mixes are made from naturally dried, organic wholefoods/superfoods— nothing else. Get the cleanest superfood and plant protein mixes at YourSuper.com. Get 15% off your order when you use code FRIENDS at checkout. Stitch Fix is an online personal styling service that delivers your favorite clothing, shoes, and accessories, directly to you. Stitch Fix has the brands you know and love, plus exclusive styles you won’t find elsewhere. After completing your style profile, your expert personal stylist will send you a handpicked box of items based on your style and preferences. Get started today at Stitchfix.com/friends and get an extra 25% off when you keep everything in your box!

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0:05.9

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0:10.5

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1:23.8

Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These. This episode's guest is Robert

1:33.6

J. Lichten. He's a psychiatrist and writer who has studied and written about psychiatry and

1:38.6

history and catastrophic events like Hiroshima, the Vietnam War, and the doctors that participated

1:45.7

in Nazi experiments and death. And he's also been writing about Trump. Yes, there's a

1:53.0

Venn diagram for you. His book, Death in Life, Survivors of Hiroshima won a National Book Award,

1:58.9

and his most recent book is, Losing Reality on Cults, Cultism, and the mindset of political and

2:05.3

religious zealotry. I did not want that book to be as relevant as I feel it turned out to be.

2:13.8

I have brought up that book and his writing in probably every conversation I've had about Trump

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