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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

National Parks Week: The Allagash Four

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

On a summer day in 1976, four friends had a strange experience in the Northwoods of Maine that would come back to haunt them decades later. Today, we’re exploring the hidden morbid side of the national parks system with our friends from National Park After Dark. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. For more unusual stories, lists, and offbeat itineraries, check out the Atlas Obscura Explorer’s Guide to the National Parks.

Transcript

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It was 1988, and all year, Jim Weiner had been having a terrible time sleeping.

0:44.0

He was having nightmares, but these were not normal nightmares, because Jim said he felt like he was awake, almost like it was some kind of sleep paralysis.

0:55.3

He'd wake up to the overwhelming sense that there was someone in the room with him.

1:00.7

He'd hear a flurry of voices, but he couldn't understand them.

1:04.7

He couldn't move anything but his eyes.

1:08.2

And often, his twin brother Jack was there, along with two college friends, Chuck and Charlie.

1:14.5

Jim would be lying on this table in a bright white room. At first, Jim thought he knew what was

1:22.1

causing this strange, awful sensation. Years earlier, he'd been in a bad accident. He'd injured his spine and his

1:30.0

brainstem. He told a psychiatrist, it seems like things were under control. They were going to get

1:35.6

better. But then Jim got on the phone with his brother Jack, and they made a very unnerving

1:43.1

discovery.

1:47.1

This was happening to Jack, too.

1:52.3

The bright white room, the table, Charlie and Chuck, the paralysis,

1:56.3

Jack said he was seeing the same things.

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